I went through the Systems Science PhD program at Portland State at the end of the last century. I just got back from a quick trip down there to discuss two different research projects, and to give an impromptu presentation on one of them.
I currently teach in a College of Business. It is a great job, with superb colleagues and fun students…and yet. Most business schools don’t really have grad students. They have students going for their MBA’s. The difference is, most folks going for an MBA have been out in business for a while, have a job and a family, and are getting the degree as a way of moving up into management, or into upper management. It’s a straightforward practical program for those who have a life.
In other disciplines, like Systems Science, the grad students are there to continue to develop as researchers in their academic discipline. They often don’t have families. They often don’t have jobs outside the school, unless you count ones that require you to wear a paper hat. They very often spend their time working for their professors, doing research and teaching.
That struck me as I was sitting in the Systems Science building at PSU, listening to the grad student, and student/professor discussions that went on around me. My right ear was getting snippits of a discussion of biosystems simulation, one that ranged from cell diffusion to the language of bees, and the issues associated with writing code to support it. My left ear was picking up discussions of symmetry breaking in physics and information theory, and of frozen accidents in evolution. In my presentation, on agent based simulation, the discussion ranged from fractal networks to random boolean networks to the desired level of expertise in a field. Afterwards, I sat in a group that discussed the importance of good data and consistency in phenotype definitions for GWAS analysis. Note that all of these were associated with actual research issues, and weren’t just late night beer-fueled gabfests. Those came later.
Good as my job is, I miss that kind of wide-ranging, yeasty, no limits discussions.